Sunday, September 25, 2011

The EU: Mother/Fatherland of Democracy?

Besides the fact that I find the word "motherland" to be an unnecessary concession to radical feminist PR propaganda...(just kidding, love you feminists), that fact that the President of the unelected European Council should call the EU of all things the mother/fatherland of anything much less democracy is astounding. They couldn't even be called the motherland of Debt Crisis or the fatherland of Bailout!

Ok, but seriously, Democracy was made an art form in Greece, institutionalized by Britain and popularized by America.

Sorry to rag on the EU so much...well, not really. Whereas at least the US and Britain have (or had I should say) some semblance of a balance between the Three Forms of Government, the EU seems very slipshod.


thisjourneyofmylife said...

I've noticed your view of European politics is very Anglo-American. That's quite natural of course, as most of your sources are probably Anglo-American. But these do give a rather extreme view. There isn't much protest against the European Council or the European Union here. We're quite happy with the politics as they are now (on European level, not on federal level). Then again, I'm just a layman in politics, so I probably shouldn't talk about it too much.
By the way, I can post here now, but I still can't post on your other blog. The error is: "Cookie value is null for FormRestoration" Whatever that might mean.

N.W. Thomas said...

It's true. I do get all my news from anglo sources considering that it's the language I know. I don't have a problem necessarily with a European Union, but I do think that national priorities should come first. If Britain or any other country has needs that are not met on the Euro level, they need to have the freedom to be able to see to those needs without having to run it past the EU. If there is no tension between the Belgian and the EU governments, then there is no problem. However, my perception is that at least Britain is not pleased and wants to be able to take care of its problems at home.

This post in particular was about whether the EU was such a huge deal in terms of democracy and I would argue that it is far less important in the history of democracy than the US, UK and Ancient Greece.

I'll work on the other blog.

thisjourneyofmylife said...

Almost all of the people in charge in the EU were elected (I'd say all, but I'm not 100 % certain). I don't know if it's that important in the history of democracy, mainly because the EU is still very young compared to the US, Britain or Greece. I guess time will tell.

N.W. Thomas said...

If that's the case, then my sources are wrong. However, I just don't think that what the EU is is that groundbreaking. And even if it is, it is not the mother/fatherland of democracy.

I think I fixed the other blog.

thisjourneyofmylife said...

You're totally right that the EU isn't the fatherland (nothing against motherland, but it just doesn't sound right) of democracy. However, most Europeans regard European history as 'their' history. In that way, the history of the European Union is also the history of Europe. Strictly speaking, this isn't correct of course.
Wikipedia has a good article on European elections. We voted a few years ago.